geevikram
07-20 09:40 PM
Problem was ours (EB2 & EB3) and we fought together until EB2&EB3 dates were retrogressed.Now the problem is only for EB3s so EB3s only have to come forward and work for ourselves. Thank you Sir...
No, you are twisting what I said. My point is, if you are not willing to help yourself, why do you expect people who are going to be current in a year or so to chip in? You can start helping yourself by becoming a regular donor to IV. That's $25 a month. Imagine 11,000 odd EB people becoming regular donors. Maybe, IV can then run a regular ad in major news network, explaining our plight.
What I am saying is we(EB2&3) will fight together and you are saying that It's your problem and you(EB3) have to work for yourself.So do we have to start a new community called eb3immigrationvoice?
I never said EB3 will have to fight it alone. All I said is, 90% of EB3 folks stuck in the rot of backlog want someone else to take the lead and do it.
Again, please do not twist what I said. I rest my case.
No, you are twisting what I said. My point is, if you are not willing to help yourself, why do you expect people who are going to be current in a year or so to chip in? You can start helping yourself by becoming a regular donor to IV. That's $25 a month. Imagine 11,000 odd EB people becoming regular donors. Maybe, IV can then run a regular ad in major news network, explaining our plight.
What I am saying is we(EB2&3) will fight together and you are saying that It's your problem and you(EB3) have to work for yourself.So do we have to start a new community called eb3immigrationvoice?
I never said EB3 will have to fight it alone. All I said is, 90% of EB3 folks stuck in the rot of backlog want someone else to take the lead and do it.
Again, please do not twist what I said. I rest my case.
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pappu
04-07 05:15 AM
If you are depressed, consider volunteering your time for immigrationvoice. Your frustration with the system can be a useful motivation in changing this system.
greensignal
08-13 10:44 AM
Hi,
My employer filed my wife's and my EAD paper based application on Jul 25, 2008 (TSC Received Date). But I still haven't received the Receipt notices for the same.
Generally how long does take to get the receipt notices?
Please let me know if any has filed around same date and received the receipts?
Thank you!
My employer filed my wife's and my EAD paper based application on Jul 25, 2008 (TSC Received Date). But I still haven't received the Receipt notices for the same.
Generally how long does take to get the receipt notices?
Please let me know if any has filed around same date and received the receipts?
Thank you!
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eb3_nepa
12-11 10:42 AM
Provided you bypass those apps that consulting companies line up at the start of the year. This is what Microsoft/Intel etc are trying to counter. They are not getting enough of the H1Bs themselves.
That is exactly my point. I mean even if the H1B quota DOES increase, is it more harm or good?
The new H1Bs will go at the back of the line, but atleast a lot of the people here like spouses on h4 might get a fighting chance to get new H1s? Somehow I dont see how an increase in the H1 quota can negatively affect us EB folk. Now dont get me wrong that is NOT all I want and nothing would please me more if the EB quota was increased as well. All I am saying is, let us not totally oppose the H1B increases just because most of us on here already have one. Half of the spouses on here can start working the minute the H1B quota is increased. Moreover stuedents already here can start working and dont have to be at the mercy of the H1b quota to graduate etc.
That is exactly my point. I mean even if the H1B quota DOES increase, is it more harm or good?
The new H1Bs will go at the back of the line, but atleast a lot of the people here like spouses on h4 might get a fighting chance to get new H1s? Somehow I dont see how an increase in the H1 quota can negatively affect us EB folk. Now dont get me wrong that is NOT all I want and nothing would please me more if the EB quota was increased as well. All I am saying is, let us not totally oppose the H1B increases just because most of us on here already have one. Half of the spouses on here can start working the minute the H1B quota is increased. Moreover stuedents already here can start working and dont have to be at the mercy of the H1b quota to graduate etc.
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good idea
09-23 04:34 PM
If someone ports from eb3 to eb2 they should get the priority date of the day they were eligible to file an eb2 and not be able to carry the date from eb3.
Porting makes sense in a family based visa where your petitioner can file for an application while he is still a green card holder and then becomes a citizen which upgrades the beneficiary's category as well.
On an employment visa you file for an eb3 when you are eligible for an eb3 job, you file for an eb2 when you are eligible for an eb2 job. Why would you be able to jump ahead in the eb2 line when you were clearly did not have an eb2 job ? Just because you filed an application at some point of time in eb3 and waited a decade to get a better job doesn't mean someone else has to pay for your (pick one - laziness, ineptitude, lack of skill or lack of knowledge).
Most of IV Core is made of eb3 applicants and therefore there has never been any push from the core on this matter. And as someone said .. You ARE eating my lunch..
ha ha ha ha ha .... till few days back EB2 guys were saying we are with you.... do not be jealous.... fight together for EB... now after this article, now some of EB2 people are not happy with rules & sharing true color of spirit they were talking about...
Porting makes sense in a family based visa where your petitioner can file for an application while he is still a green card holder and then becomes a citizen which upgrades the beneficiary's category as well.
On an employment visa you file for an eb3 when you are eligible for an eb3 job, you file for an eb2 when you are eligible for an eb2 job. Why would you be able to jump ahead in the eb2 line when you were clearly did not have an eb2 job ? Just because you filed an application at some point of time in eb3 and waited a decade to get a better job doesn't mean someone else has to pay for your (pick one - laziness, ineptitude, lack of skill or lack of knowledge).
Most of IV Core is made of eb3 applicants and therefore there has never been any push from the core on this matter. And as someone said .. You ARE eating my lunch..
ha ha ha ha ha .... till few days back EB2 guys were saying we are with you.... do not be jealous.... fight together for EB... now after this article, now some of EB2 people are not happy with rules & sharing true color of spirit they were talking about...
tonyHK12
02-18 02:12 PM
I will not be able to attend the effort, so i just donated $100. Paypal transaction : 5G8297179W5987836
thanks kumar_459. Just one for today so far.
thanks kumar_459. Just one for today so far.
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Canadianindian
07-06 05:21 PM
Can someone organize something in NY/NJ?
I am in for NY/NJ. Can also muster about 10 ppl or more.
I am in for NY/NJ. Can also muster about 10 ppl or more.
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tonyHK12
02-24 09:25 AM
Most of you have got this in your email. Please forward to all those in the EB2, EB3 queue.
Text for Advocacy day Newsletter (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a-7.html#post2372432)
Text for Advocacy day Newsletter (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a-7.html#post2372432)
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h1techSlave
06-29 10:43 AM
The answer to your question is: Nothing. They may be waiting, because of many reasons like, they are scared, do not care, there are other opportunities, tired of this immigration crap, lack of enough knowledge regarding their rights.
Now, I do not think the onus correcting such mistakes is 100% on the EAD folks' shoulders. I remember reading how slavery ended in this country. Slavery died, not because the black people fought for the abolition of slavery; slavery ended when the white man realized that slavery is wrong.
Based on the same logic, I would say that the job of stopping discrimination against EAD/H1B etc. is mainly the responsibility of Citizens and GC holders. It is their country; it is up to them to fix it.
My question is -
what are these "1000s of folks" doing? Are they waiting for someone else to work for their cause?
If they believe they were wronged, they need to take action. Without any action, nothing is going to happen.
And, yes, these is discrimination on the both side of the lines. Have you looked at the hiring practices of leading desi outsourcing/consulting companies in the US?
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Now, I do not think the onus correcting such mistakes is 100% on the EAD folks' shoulders. I remember reading how slavery ended in this country. Slavery died, not because the black people fought for the abolition of slavery; slavery ended when the white man realized that slavery is wrong.
Based on the same logic, I would say that the job of stopping discrimination against EAD/H1B etc. is mainly the responsibility of Citizens and GC holders. It is their country; it is up to them to fix it.
My question is -
what are these "1000s of folks" doing? Are they waiting for someone else to work for their cause?
If they believe they were wronged, they need to take action. Without any action, nothing is going to happen.
And, yes, these is discrimination on the both side of the lines. Have you looked at the hiring practices of leading desi outsourcing/consulting companies in the US?
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gsc999
07-08 05:40 PM
Hi,
I have thrown a challenge to IV DC chapter about who will get a bigger gathering on 07/14, San Jose or D.C.
Our Chinese friends are also posting this at Chinese grocery store, on websites and also at local news forums.
I need volunteers in bay area! Please send me a PM with your e-mail address, if possible phone numbers and a good time to contact so that we can spread the word in Bay area. I already have one volunteer need more.
I have thrown a challenge to IV DC chapter about who will get a bigger gathering on 07/14, San Jose or D.C.
Our Chinese friends are also posting this at Chinese grocery store, on websites and also at local news forums.
I need volunteers in bay area! Please send me a PM with your e-mail address, if possible phone numbers and a good time to contact so that we can spread the word in Bay area. I already have one volunteer need more.
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sledge_hammer
04-22 08:02 AM
The news is terrible...
But I admire the courage he showed during his difficult times.
I agree with you dealsnet. We, the members of IV, should take up this issue and try to help his family.
ArkBird, any ideas how we can help?
We the employment based immigrant community to do some thing to help his family. May be by contributions, and help his family to get his benefits from the company he worked, any insurance, IRA, 401K etc.....
Hiis spouse may not have the ability do these things from a foreign country. Some body from IV must contact his family now based in Sweden. This is my suggestion.
But I admire the courage he showed during his difficult times.
I agree with you dealsnet. We, the members of IV, should take up this issue and try to help his family.
ArkBird, any ideas how we can help?
We the employment based immigrant community to do some thing to help his family. May be by contributions, and help his family to get his benefits from the company he worked, any insurance, IRA, 401K etc.....
Hiis spouse may not have the ability do these things from a foreign country. Some body from IV must contact his family now based in Sweden. This is my suggestion.
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ssa
07-28 12:04 AM
No one can realistically claim a moral high ground here - neither EB2 nor EB3. and that includes me too! Each one of us here are looking for self interest, period. No amount of calls to empathy/sympathy/solidarity will change that.
For example, I'll get behind the whole "restore the old overflow logic for EB3" campaign in a heartbeat if we can have a consensus that EB3 will share the resulting overflow with EB3 other workers category too. EB3 other workers category is typically in worse shape than EB3-I so all the arguments presented here for EB3 (length of wait and frustration, unfairness of it all etc.) apply equally or more to the EB3 other workers. Any takers for this proposal?
So please see all this for what it is and stop the endless debate. You can not realistically expect EB2s to support any campaign that directly harm their interests. EB3s of course have every right to run whatever campaign they wish but also accept that it *will* split active IV membership (rare as it is) along those lines vertically. That's why the calls to stick to "common minimum program" of visa re-capture. Only those campaigns that don't have conflict of interests will be able to draw whole IV membership behind them. It's human nature - plain and simple.
For example, I'll get behind the whole "restore the old overflow logic for EB3" campaign in a heartbeat if we can have a consensus that EB3 will share the resulting overflow with EB3 other workers category too. EB3 other workers category is typically in worse shape than EB3-I so all the arguments presented here for EB3 (length of wait and frustration, unfairness of it all etc.) apply equally or more to the EB3 other workers. Any takers for this proposal?
So please see all this for what it is and stop the endless debate. You can not realistically expect EB2s to support any campaign that directly harm their interests. EB3s of course have every right to run whatever campaign they wish but also accept that it *will* split active IV membership (rare as it is) along those lines vertically. That's why the calls to stick to "common minimum program" of visa re-capture. Only those campaigns that don't have conflict of interests will be able to draw whole IV membership behind them. It's human nature - plain and simple.
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andycool
08-27 12:52 PM
Another case I can remember is andycool on this forum
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yes we had a slud on our 1 st EAD's and our 485's on Aug 21 ..
Got CPO on 24 ..
thanks
buddy you remember me ;) :)
yes we had a slud on our 1 st EAD's and our 485's on Aug 21 ..
Got CPO on 24 ..
thanks
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kunjirs
02-26 09:39 AM
Was not active on the forum for long time. Visited the forum for a question and came to know about Advocacy Days in Washington DC. Will not be able to attend due to family commitments. Thanks you all for your efforts for this event.
Contributed $50; receipt number for this payment is: 4235-8095-3773-3845. I will also check to see if I have any air miles.
Contributed $50; receipt number for this payment is: 4235-8095-3773-3845. I will also check to see if I have any air miles.
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nousername
02-09 08:43 PM
$30 from my side.. Could not set up Paypal a/c without banking details so will do it tonight for sure..
Keep going guys.
Thanks for your contribution. Please pursuade your friends and relatives also
Keep going guys.
Thanks for your contribution. Please pursuade your friends and relatives also
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anzerraja
07-20 11:09 AM
Dear Members
For those of you joining us late, here is some info about this thread.
1. This is to do our least part to the core IV Team for their selfless sacrifice, for all of us getting the benefits of legal immigration. Note that , Aman Kapoor , the co-founder of IV has done his part by sacrificing $64,000/- from his own personal funds towards the administrative costs of IV. Yes you read it right , it is $64,000/- We come to know from his co-worker that he has sold his house towards running this show for us.
2. We have not yet figured out a way to reimburse these costs as IV does not yet have administrative costs part of the expenditure allocation, as we understand it. So instead of a wait and watch, we decided to go ahead with collecting the pledge from the members on the amount they are putting forth for reimbursing the amount. Once we come up with a strategy(members we look for your suggestions on how to get this done, please add your comments) we will instruct the members pledged to pay out.
So do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet.
Please help us spread the message about this thread in other threads by copy and pasting the following in other threads too.
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman and other core IV member's expenses towards the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Thanks
Anzer
For those of you joining us late, here is some info about this thread.
1. This is to do our least part to the core IV Team for their selfless sacrifice, for all of us getting the benefits of legal immigration. Note that , Aman Kapoor , the co-founder of IV has done his part by sacrificing $64,000/- from his own personal funds towards the administrative costs of IV. Yes you read it right , it is $64,000/- We come to know from his co-worker that he has sold his house towards running this show for us.
2. We have not yet figured out a way to reimburse these costs as IV does not yet have administrative costs part of the expenditure allocation, as we understand it. So instead of a wait and watch, we decided to go ahead with collecting the pledge from the members on the amount they are putting forth for reimbursing the amount. Once we come up with a strategy(members we look for your suggestions on how to get this done, please add your comments) we will instruct the members pledged to pay out.
So do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet.
Please help us spread the message about this thread in other threads by copy and pasting the following in other threads too.
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman and other core IV member's expenses towards the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Thanks
Anzer
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abq_gc
08-18 02:42 PM
SunnySurya,
There is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION of contacting state chapter heads. State chapter heads are not your personal lackeys. They are members who receive instructions from the IV core team to take on initiatives.
This is NOT an initiative that the ENTIRE IV community supports and hence will NOT be taken up by state chapter heads. The key here is UNITY UNITY UNITY. You have chosen to break the FIRST CODE of IV ethics and that is UNITY.
Lastly, it is NOT upto YOU to decide what is ethical and unethical. It is upto the CORE team. So please consult with the core team before you make up the rules.
What's yur damn problem if someone wants to fight INJUSTICE ??? If u don't fucking like the idea.. then back off and stop reading this post.... u dont have to lecture anyone on what's ethical and unethical... remember we are all Highly skilled here.... so we can decide that for ourselves...
There is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION of contacting state chapter heads. State chapter heads are not your personal lackeys. They are members who receive instructions from the IV core team to take on initiatives.
This is NOT an initiative that the ENTIRE IV community supports and hence will NOT be taken up by state chapter heads. The key here is UNITY UNITY UNITY. You have chosen to break the FIRST CODE of IV ethics and that is UNITY.
Lastly, it is NOT upto YOU to decide what is ethical and unethical. It is upto the CORE team. So please consult with the core team before you make up the rules.
What's yur damn problem if someone wants to fight INJUSTICE ??? If u don't fucking like the idea.. then back off and stop reading this post.... u dont have to lecture anyone on what's ethical and unethical... remember we are all Highly skilled here.... so we can decide that for ourselves...
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vsoni
12-03 02:20 PM
Is there any way I can help you?
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raj2007
04-24 05:16 PM
I agree with kshitijnt that you need past employer more than you need client. In my case I had received 485 query to supply some my employment related docs ( whether that I am working with responser or working with someone else, letter from company showing my current position,sal. etc). Since I didn't change my employer, it was very easy and quick to get such documents from current employer. Imagine if I would have switched on EAD then I would have to chase my past employer for letters, paystubs etc and by the I would got them from past employer,I faced the risk of PD moving back.
Your case is different becasue you filed your I-485 with them. Here he has not started 485 at all.I don't know how he can maintain good relation with them. Some employer are too torugh to deal and same goes with some employees too.
Your case is different becasue you filed your I-485 with them. Here he has not started 485 at all.I don't know how he can maintain good relation with them. Some employer are too torugh to deal and same goes with some employees too.
bkarnik
05-02 09:13 PM
Forgot to add...IV core: Time for a thank you webfax to Cornyn and the other sponsors :)
desigirl
09-27 08:26 AM
I have no problem with porting, but the priority date should be starting from when they acquired required qualifications for the job.
Example, if someone with B.S and 2 years experience had applied in EB3 in 2005 and tries to port now I think it is fair to have the ported PD not in 2005, but 2008 when the person acquired B.S + 5 years experience.
This would automatically address all those folks who deserved to be in EB2 but couldnt either becuase lawyer screwed up or issues with sponsoring company.
We got the year..how about the month and day on which to port to eb2?;)
Example, if someone with B.S and 2 years experience had applied in EB3 in 2005 and tries to port now I think it is fair to have the ported PD not in 2005, but 2008 when the person acquired B.S + 5 years experience.
This would automatically address all those folks who deserved to be in EB2 but couldnt either becuase lawyer screwed up or issues with sponsoring company.
We got the year..how about the month and day on which to port to eb2?;)
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