cool_guy_onnet1
06-01 01:28 PM
New Immigration Bill Amendment Could Help Keep Foreign Tech Workers In U.S.
A proposal to create a dual green-card system that favors high tech talent has bi-partisan support in the Senate.
By Marianne Kolbasuk McGee
InformationWeek
May 31, 2007 04:50 PM
A bi-partisan group of U.S. senators next week is expected to introduce to the immigration reform bill an amendment that proposes to retain a pool of 140,000 employer-sponsored green cards for foreign workers seeking permanent residence in the United States.
Amendment S.1249, being co-sponsored by senators Maria Cantwell (D-Wash), John Cornyn (R-Tex.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Orrin Hatch (R-Pa.), and Robert Bennett (R-Utah) proposes that the U.S. create a dual green-card system that, in addition to a new merit-point green card system that's proposed in the main bill, would also keep an annual pool of 140,000 employer-sponsored based green cards for foreign workers.
The revised legislation also proposes the United States establish no limit on H-1B visas for foreign professionals with masters or doctoral degrees in science, technology, engineering and math, or STEM fields.
"This would set up a complementary and parallel employer-sponsored system to the merit system" said Robert Hoffman, Oracle VP of government affairs and co-chair of Compete America, a coalition of technology companies. "This system would be more like Australia's" where immigration is granted in dual programs that includes employer-based sponsorship and merit points.
By the U.S. retaining a system allowing employer-based green cards to be issued each year, businesses would have better control over the talent they'd like to keep in the U.S., say tech employers.
One of the biggest criticisms that tech employers have about the current immigration reform bill being hammered out in the Senate is the proposed merit-based green card system. The process awards individuals with points based on the person's education, skills, and other factors.
Tech companies complain that a point-based system would shift to government bureaucrats too much control about the kind of talent pool that's available to employers in U.S. Amendment S.1249 proposes retaining employer-based immigration and expanding permanent residency to those foreigners with advanced STEM degrees, said Hoffman.
The amendment also proposes eliminating caps on H-1B visas issued to foreign students who have advanced degrees from U.S. universities. Right now, in addition to the 65,000 H-1B visas issued each year by the United States, an additional 20,000 H-1B visas are available to foreign students with advanced degrees from U.S. universities. The new amendment would eliminate that annual ceiling for advanced U.S. degrees.
In addition, the amendment also proposes providing 20,000 H-1B visas annually to foreigners with advanced degrees in STEM fields from foreign schools.
"Masters and PhDs would be exempt from the cap on H-1Bs and green cards," said Hoffman.
The amendment also proposes retracting a provision in the immigration reform bill that H-1B visa holders must have degrees that match their jobs. However, under the amendment, an H-1B visa holder with a degree in mathematics could continue to apply for work in a software engineering job, even without the software engineering degree.
"We're strongly in favor of this amendment," said Hoffman. "It's the single most important amendment in this [immigration] bill," he said.
Not everyone feels the same way. In a statement, U.S tech-professional advocacy group the Programmers Guild, called the amendment "a declaration of war on American tech workers."
A proposal to create a dual green-card system that favors high tech talent has bi-partisan support in the Senate.
By Marianne Kolbasuk McGee
InformationWeek
May 31, 2007 04:50 PM
A bi-partisan group of U.S. senators next week is expected to introduce to the immigration reform bill an amendment that proposes to retain a pool of 140,000 employer-sponsored green cards for foreign workers seeking permanent residence in the United States.
Amendment S.1249, being co-sponsored by senators Maria Cantwell (D-Wash), John Cornyn (R-Tex.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Orrin Hatch (R-Pa.), and Robert Bennett (R-Utah) proposes that the U.S. create a dual green-card system that, in addition to a new merit-point green card system that's proposed in the main bill, would also keep an annual pool of 140,000 employer-sponsored based green cards for foreign workers.
The revised legislation also proposes the United States establish no limit on H-1B visas for foreign professionals with masters or doctoral degrees in science, technology, engineering and math, or STEM fields.
"This would set up a complementary and parallel employer-sponsored system to the merit system" said Robert Hoffman, Oracle VP of government affairs and co-chair of Compete America, a coalition of technology companies. "This system would be more like Australia's" where immigration is granted in dual programs that includes employer-based sponsorship and merit points.
By the U.S. retaining a system allowing employer-based green cards to be issued each year, businesses would have better control over the talent they'd like to keep in the U.S., say tech employers.
One of the biggest criticisms that tech employers have about the current immigration reform bill being hammered out in the Senate is the proposed merit-based green card system. The process awards individuals with points based on the person's education, skills, and other factors.
Tech companies complain that a point-based system would shift to government bureaucrats too much control about the kind of talent pool that's available to employers in U.S. Amendment S.1249 proposes retaining employer-based immigration and expanding permanent residency to those foreigners with advanced STEM degrees, said Hoffman.
The amendment also proposes eliminating caps on H-1B visas issued to foreign students who have advanced degrees from U.S. universities. Right now, in addition to the 65,000 H-1B visas issued each year by the United States, an additional 20,000 H-1B visas are available to foreign students with advanced degrees from U.S. universities. The new amendment would eliminate that annual ceiling for advanced U.S. degrees.
In addition, the amendment also proposes providing 20,000 H-1B visas annually to foreigners with advanced degrees in STEM fields from foreign schools.
"Masters and PhDs would be exempt from the cap on H-1Bs and green cards," said Hoffman.
The amendment also proposes retracting a provision in the immigration reform bill that H-1B visa holders must have degrees that match their jobs. However, under the amendment, an H-1B visa holder with a degree in mathematics could continue to apply for work in a software engineering job, even without the software engineering degree.
"We're strongly in favor of this amendment," said Hoffman. "It's the single most important amendment in this [immigration] bill," he said.
Not everyone feels the same way. In a statement, U.S tech-professional advocacy group the Programmers Guild, called the amendment "a declaration of war on American tech workers."
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02-14 05:06 PM
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roseball
11-09 09:57 PM
Hello gurus,
I have one doubt abt requirements to port EB2.
my EB3 priority date is Aug 2005, now i am planning to apply EB2 with different employer. do i need 5 yrs experience as of my Eb3 priority date in order to port Eb3 priority date to Eb3 ? my lawyer is saying i need 5 yrs experience as of Aug 2005 is it true ?
thanks a lot for your help
Your lawyer is wrong. You should have 5 yrs of experience at the time of EB2 PERM application.
I have one doubt abt requirements to port EB2.
my EB3 priority date is Aug 2005, now i am planning to apply EB2 with different employer. do i need 5 yrs experience as of my Eb3 priority date in order to port Eb3 priority date to Eb3 ? my lawyer is saying i need 5 yrs experience as of Aug 2005 is it true ?
thanks a lot for your help
Your lawyer is wrong. You should have 5 yrs of experience at the time of EB2 PERM application.
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Mohit_Malkani
02-25 04:12 PM
Guys,
The I140 processing dates for VSC show as 1 April 2006 and have been the same atleast for the last 1 year. I called customer service but couldnt get a straight answer from them - the standard bs about RD being well within standard processing times etc. Anyway, does anyone have an idea about this issue???
:mad::mad:
The I140 processing dates for VSC show as 1 April 2006 and have been the same atleast for the last 1 year. I called customer service but couldnt get a straight answer from them - the standard bs about RD being well within standard processing times etc. Anyway, does anyone have an idea about this issue???
:mad::mad:
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alien2006
08-08 07:33 AM
guys many of us are considering going back to india.. any idea on whether those who have 40 credits will be eligible for social security from india...
also any adivice o what is the best way to transfer 401 to india.. withdraw immeditately or wait till 591/2 years..
Try this website - http://groups.msn.com/R2INRIFinanceAndInvestments for good info if you want to go back to India.
also any adivice o what is the best way to transfer 401 to india.. withdraw immeditately or wait till 591/2 years..
Try this website - http://groups.msn.com/R2INRIFinanceAndInvestments for good info if you want to go back to India.
mbartosik
05-30 01:17 PM
Following this logic only BEC cases are affected.
I use the word "only" caughtiously because there are still a lot in BECs and if it is you it is not a statistic.
If BECs complete processing by year end then all I140s could be issued within a few months of that.
After BEC cases have been processed then what's the problem since PERM is workable?
The only problems I see are:
BEC cases -- it is unacceptable to leave them out in the cold after such a long wait.
Abusive employers cancelling I140 before a new I140 is obtained after moving jobs.
The extension beyond 6th year was only ever intended to allow for the labor certification backlog.
Unfortunately the law makers acted too late and many had to leave some years ago before 7th year extensions were allowed. I hope they don't make up for that by acting too soon now (before BECs complete processing).
If the BECs complete their job, why would there be a need for 7th year extensions?
I use the word "only" caughtiously because there are still a lot in BECs and if it is you it is not a statistic.
If BECs complete processing by year end then all I140s could be issued within a few months of that.
After BEC cases have been processed then what's the problem since PERM is workable?
The only problems I see are:
BEC cases -- it is unacceptable to leave them out in the cold after such a long wait.
Abusive employers cancelling I140 before a new I140 is obtained after moving jobs.
The extension beyond 6th year was only ever intended to allow for the labor certification backlog.
Unfortunately the law makers acted too late and many had to leave some years ago before 7th year extensions were allowed. I hope they don't make up for that by acting too soon now (before BECs complete processing).
If the BECs complete their job, why would there be a need for 7th year extensions?
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sromil99
03-26 03:16 AM
Which Consulate you went for renewal?
It looks like case of establishing Employee - employer relationship and RFE is requested for the same.
You work for comp A which has contract with Comp B and Comp B makes you work for Comp C.
You need contract between Comp B and Comp C as well.
Search for Employer Employee memo, which was issued in Jan 2010 y USICS, that should clear the picture for you.
Note: I am not a professional, these comments are FYI only, pls seek professional advice for details.
It looks like case of establishing Employee - employer relationship and RFE is requested for the same.
You work for comp A which has contract with Comp B and Comp B makes you work for Comp C.
You need contract between Comp B and Comp C as well.
Search for Employer Employee memo, which was issued in Jan 2010 y USICS, that should clear the picture for you.
Note: I am not a professional, these comments are FYI only, pls seek professional advice for details.
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Suva
04-17 01:43 PM
Hello Frnds,
I would like to share some important information regarding AINP.
AINP Strategic recruiteement stream -U.S Visa holder is open.I directly spoke to the immigration officer.The only change is they are revising the NOC List thats it.I donno why people place messages with Half Knowledge.see u r Noc is in the below URL
WWW.ALBERTACANADA.COM\AINP
OP already mentioned the change was expected in the NOC list [On-Demand occupation list of Alberta]. Nobody told it would be closed after April 15. Did you see all the postings here before blaming others?
I would like to share some important information regarding AINP.
AINP Strategic recruiteement stream -U.S Visa holder is open.I directly spoke to the immigration officer.The only change is they are revising the NOC List thats it.I donno why people place messages with Half Knowledge.see u r Noc is in the below URL
WWW.ALBERTACANADA.COM\AINP
OP already mentioned the change was expected in the NOC list [On-Demand occupation list of Alberta]. Nobody told it would be closed after April 15. Did you see all the postings here before blaming others?
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sertasheep
06-17 10:32 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061601360.html?hpid=topnews
Needless to say, one can register and post their comments there. Feel free to share your stories related to the above article.
Needless to say, one can register and post their comments there. Feel free to share your stories related to the above article.
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diptam
05-12 11:01 PM
Generally i see such emails on Friday/Saturday late nights - hopefulgc is doing it Monday :) Just Kidding and take it EZ !!
Things are no so easy - if laws could be changed easily, lot of lobbyists have way more than 1 MM dollar - that's not any big money at US ... Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney wasted 35 MM personal fortune, Billary Clinton in strangled in 15-20 MM election debt where as Barack has created a historic fund raising record ( who single mother has raised him by taking help from Food stamp )
Everything is not just money (at least in America) - the line of money ends somewhere - even America being a Capitalist Nation. You know why Dick cheney is hated by 75% of Americans ?????:)
We need to raise a million $. Anything less is seeming to just not cut it.
Look where we are now with our half-hearted efforts.
[B][COLOR="Red"]Here is an idea: say we have roughly 500 members out of this vast array of 35000+ members who have the heart and the will to contribute. we get $2000 from each and place it in an escrow trust account that does not release money for expenditure unless we reach $1 mln
Brethren.... rise!
Things are no so easy - if laws could be changed easily, lot of lobbyists have way more than 1 MM dollar - that's not any big money at US ... Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney wasted 35 MM personal fortune, Billary Clinton in strangled in 15-20 MM election debt where as Barack has created a historic fund raising record ( who single mother has raised him by taking help from Food stamp )
Everything is not just money (at least in America) - the line of money ends somewhere - even America being a Capitalist Nation. You know why Dick cheney is hated by 75% of Americans ?????:)
We need to raise a million $. Anything less is seeming to just not cut it.
Look where we are now with our half-hearted efforts.
[B][COLOR="Red"]Here is an idea: say we have roughly 500 members out of this vast array of 35000+ members who have the heart and the will to contribute. we get $2000 from each and place it in an escrow trust account that does not release money for expenditure unless we reach $1 mln
Brethren.... rise!
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chintals
09-03 01:33 PM
How did you do that? can you please provide info?
The phone number to call and would they need any information from me?
1) Call 800 and convince the person to escalate to 2nd level and speak to IIO
2) Call 800 and choose cases were seperated option which will go to respective service center and talk to IO.
Some folks are helpful and some are not.. It all depends how you approach and how you can convince.. good luck. Other option is go to Infopass.
The phone number to call and would they need any information from me?
1) Call 800 and convince the person to escalate to 2nd level and speak to IIO
2) Call 800 and choose cases were seperated option which will go to respective service center and talk to IO.
Some folks are helpful and some are not.. It all depends how you approach and how you can convince.. good luck. Other option is go to Infopass.
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01-16 04:43 PM
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naushit
02-12 03:22 PM
Chris,
This is what I did, I just called and told them I need to do FP, can you please schedule it for me?, and surprisingly without any resistance they just scheduled my finger prints for First week of March! (yesterday I received FP notice,scheduled for fist week of March 2009).
I do not think without valid FP your case will pass their , "ready to approve" filter criteria.
so get your FP done.
Good luck,
Regards,
-N
You are right. My finger prints are expired and called several times and took info pass.
Same answer, " if IO thinks need FP, they will send. Wait for their decission". :mad:
This is what I did, I just called and told them I need to do FP, can you please schedule it for me?, and surprisingly without any resistance they just scheduled my finger prints for First week of March! (yesterday I received FP notice,scheduled for fist week of March 2009).
I do not think without valid FP your case will pass their , "ready to approve" filter criteria.
so get your FP done.
Good luck,
Regards,
-N
You are right. My finger prints are expired and called several times and took info pass.
Same answer, " if IO thinks need FP, they will send. Wait for their decission". :mad:
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PDDec05
06-29 11:44 PM
Thank you for your input, do you know where I should call, if there is a number and so on? There is absolutely no information on any place on fixing 485 form.
I just called the 1-800 number on their website, but your lawyer may know someone in person at the USCIS.
I just called the 1-800 number on their website, but your lawyer may know someone in person at the USCIS.
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atul555
12-14 10:57 PM
My company is surplussing me among other employees to be laid off around Apr 2009.
My case is as follows:
Case EB3 India
PD Mar 2004
Labor and I-140 approved
I-485 filed during Jun-Jul 2007 rush, FP done, waiting for PD to become current
Right now I am working on H1-B extension, and to make things complicated, I got married in Jul 2008 and brought spouse on H4.
I am not sure which avenue is the best for me, I would appreciate your input.
Thanks,
My case is as follows:
Case EB3 India
PD Mar 2004
Labor and I-140 approved
I-485 filed during Jun-Jul 2007 rush, FP done, waiting for PD to become current
Right now I am working on H1-B extension, and to make things complicated, I got married in Jul 2008 and brought spouse on H4.
I am not sure which avenue is the best for me, I would appreciate your input.
Thanks,
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gcseeker2002
02-20 03:16 PM
I was looking at the flcdatacenter website for Perm labors filed in 2006, and here are the numbers of total perm filed :
Total : 105960
India : 26636 = 25.2%
China : 8222 = 7.75%
No wonder china is moving faster in the EB categories
Total : 105960
India : 26636 = 25.2%
China : 8222 = 7.75%
No wonder china is moving faster in the EB categories
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leoindiano
07-09 01:45 PM
Buddy,
Why you are so angry??. I know more than you about immigration and all the rules. you try to understand the English properly and the meaning. I hope you are from a very remote place in India. So for you to understand better, Here is the meanign fo my message.
GUYS, YOUR PRIORITY DATE IS 2006 and why you are asking for the premium processing when many of your friends are still waiting to file their I 140 or I 485.
Don't try to put harsh words in public forums. You will get them back as a Boomerang...... Understand?:mad:
Needless to respond...but cant stay calm....
We were trying to track what is going on? 15 days was the published deadline. Priority date of mine is Nov 2004. You can check my previous posts. You are the one who was harsh to start with. Now you are talking about english. You got the boomarang.. good luck
Why you are so angry??. I know more than you about immigration and all the rules. you try to understand the English properly and the meaning. I hope you are from a very remote place in India. So for you to understand better, Here is the meanign fo my message.
GUYS, YOUR PRIORITY DATE IS 2006 and why you are asking for the premium processing when many of your friends are still waiting to file their I 140 or I 485.
Don't try to put harsh words in public forums. You will get them back as a Boomerang...... Understand?:mad:
Needless to respond...but cant stay calm....
We were trying to track what is going on? 15 days was the published deadline. Priority date of mine is Nov 2004. You can check my previous posts. You are the one who was harsh to start with. Now you are talking about english. You got the boomarang.. good luck
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pkv
09-13 01:17 PM
What is this fight all about ??? eb3-->eb2 ... or spillover??? changing any/both of them will not solve underlying problem.. Grow up people
why not go for real problem??? if you want to ask congress/administration, ask for some real solutions which will help everyone. To name a few...
1. Capture lost Visa numbers
2. Get rid of country quota.. how does this country based quota makes sense in EB Category??
why not go for real problem??? if you want to ask congress/administration, ask for some real solutions which will help everyone. To name a few...
1. Capture lost Visa numbers
2. Get rid of country quota.. how does this country based quota makes sense in EB Category??
Anogar
03-05 02:12 AM
I think I misread the OP about moving from the flash IDE to flex builder although I strongly prefer both FD and FDT to flex builder..
and no Jeff, it wasn't directed at you although I'm sure you have no idea what you're talking about either :P
You didn't misread it, he said:
I think it's natural to switch from Flash Studio to Flex Builder in the some point of time.
Never mind...
And I also disagree. Flex has some strong points, but ultimately there isn't much you can't accomplish with Flex that you couldn't have done with Flash + Flash Develop, or FDT, or something like that. Obviously no one uses the Flash IDE to code once they reach a certain point, but that doesn't mean the only (or best) option is to move to Flex Builder. I find Flex Builder to be sort of cumbersome, and for working with artists, which I'm always doing, I much prefer using the Flash IDE.
and no Jeff, it wasn't directed at you although I'm sure you have no idea what you're talking about either :P
You didn't misread it, he said:
I think it's natural to switch from Flash Studio to Flex Builder in the some point of time.
Never mind...
And I also disagree. Flex has some strong points, but ultimately there isn't much you can't accomplish with Flex that you couldn't have done with Flash + Flash Develop, or FDT, or something like that. Obviously no one uses the Flash IDE to code once they reach a certain point, but that doesn't mean the only (or best) option is to move to Flex Builder. I find Flex Builder to be sort of cumbersome, and for working with artists, which I'm always doing, I much prefer using the Flash IDE.
john2255
07-20 02:44 PM
I am sorry to start a new thread but I feel the following thread is not getting the importance it should get. Everyone please dont miss the following thread. Its a big defeat during our celebrations.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10751
Major loss to us Cornyn amendment rejected
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10751
Major loss to us Cornyn amendment rejected
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