logiclife
03-08 10:46 AM
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
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485Mbe4001
03-16 05:16 PM
The primary reason for the slow movement is due to the following reasons
a) change in the namecheck policy. Sometime during early 2008 USCIS changed the rule for all cases stuck in namecheck for more than 90 days. Around 215k cases (family + EB) were stuck in namecheck this caused a flood of eligible cases. (i was stuck in namecheck for almost 3 years, i know what i am talking about)
b) USCIS changed the overflow rule. earlier EB3 would get more of the unused visas, now most are consumed by EB2 I &C. since there are no additional visas available for EB3 (with no chance of getting any till EB2 is cleared) the EB3 queue has very little chance of moving rapidly. Maybe USCIS did this to drive a wedge in the community, whenever we bring this up there is a slew of red and green dots :p
recapture was the best bet for everybody, one time recapture of the 300k odd visas will reduce all wait for all categories....will it happen..probably not.
They recaptured unused Visas once, somewhere in 1997 I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but that took care of the backlog then.
The main thing which we are struggling with are the 200K H1B between 1999 & 2001 and one more reason is 245i cases. In the year 2001 Clinton Administration gave Amnesty to Illegals, they were given opportunity to file their 485s with PD of April'2001...Now this is controversial, as I have even asked few lawyers about which categoy they fell in ? Some says 'EB-3' other says 'Other Workers' Category.
If it is EB-3 you know the answer why the dates haven't passed the big hump of 2001 in last 4 years...
a) change in the namecheck policy. Sometime during early 2008 USCIS changed the rule for all cases stuck in namecheck for more than 90 days. Around 215k cases (family + EB) were stuck in namecheck this caused a flood of eligible cases. (i was stuck in namecheck for almost 3 years, i know what i am talking about)
b) USCIS changed the overflow rule. earlier EB3 would get more of the unused visas, now most are consumed by EB2 I &C. since there are no additional visas available for EB3 (with no chance of getting any till EB2 is cleared) the EB3 queue has very little chance of moving rapidly. Maybe USCIS did this to drive a wedge in the community, whenever we bring this up there is a slew of red and green dots :p
recapture was the best bet for everybody, one time recapture of the 300k odd visas will reduce all wait for all categories....will it happen..probably not.
They recaptured unused Visas once, somewhere in 1997 I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but that took care of the backlog then.
The main thing which we are struggling with are the 200K H1B between 1999 & 2001 and one more reason is 245i cases. In the year 2001 Clinton Administration gave Amnesty to Illegals, they were given opportunity to file their 485s with PD of April'2001...Now this is controversial, as I have even asked few lawyers about which categoy they fell in ? Some says 'EB-3' other says 'Other Workers' Category.
If it is EB-3 you know the answer why the dates haven't passed the big hump of 2001 in last 4 years...
asdcrajnet
02-01 08:15 PM
wish you the very best in your future endeavor (In Tamil: ungal vazhkhai payanam inithaga amaiye engal vazhthukkal!)
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kshitijnt
07-09 01:22 PM
well, the question then would be, has anyone been denied after presenting an EVL which states the employee is a consultant ?
Getting a letter is not a big deal. What if I am a full time consultant in that company?
Getting a letter is not a big deal. What if I am a full time consultant in that company?
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StarSun
02-22 09:19 AM
Feeling depressed does not help you, your family, your employer or your gc process.
Get up and register for the advocacy event (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=36)!
Do something positive about your GC process instead of sitting and saying that it will be years before you get the GC.
What you do about your GC is in your hands. You can support, and actively seek to mitigate your GC problems.
Get up and register for the advocacy event (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=36)!
Do something positive about your GC process instead of sitting and saying that it will be years before you get the GC.
What you do about your GC is in your hands. You can support, and actively seek to mitigate your GC problems.
jackisback
05-07 05:11 PM
Has any one in the forum here have a FP notice for a 4 and half year child during the 485 process. I ask this question as my daughter did not get one.
Feedback is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Yes, I got a FP notice for my daughter as she was born in India; and I had applied 485 for her as well.
She was 4 and a half years in Nov 07 when we got the notice. I am a July-Aug 07 filer.
Her FP notice came for a separate date though, diff from my wife's and mine.
I wd suggest you to call USCIS/ur attorney and check.
Hope that helps.
Feedback is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Yes, I got a FP notice for my daughter as she was born in India; and I had applied 485 for her as well.
She was 4 and a half years in Nov 07 when we got the notice. I am a July-Aug 07 filer.
Her FP notice came for a separate date though, diff from my wife's and mine.
I wd suggest you to call USCIS/ur attorney and check.
Hope that helps.
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08-13 07:49 AM
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gc_chahiye
10-08 01:17 PM
It already does, if you have an approved I-140 based on your LC.
with LC sitting in BEC for 5 years or more it does not. There are many many people I know whose PD could not be recaptured because of the insane amount of time LC certifications used to take. With PERM its a 5 month + 15 day (if I-140 PP is restored) thing; in my time (gosh I feel like an oldtimer now) it was a 4-5 YEAR wait for LC, then another year for I-140 (as there was no PP). And in 2001-2003 not all companies that sponsored LCs survived to see what came out of that process, and the sponsored employees were left with nothing.
with LC sitting in BEC for 5 years or more it does not. There are many many people I know whose PD could not be recaptured because of the insane amount of time LC certifications used to take. With PERM its a 5 month + 15 day (if I-140 PP is restored) thing; in my time (gosh I feel like an oldtimer now) it was a 4-5 YEAR wait for LC, then another year for I-140 (as there was no PP). And in 2001-2003 not all companies that sponsored LCs survived to see what came out of that process, and the sponsored employees were left with nothing.
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mnkaushik
08-31 10:11 AM
Congratulations mnkaushik?
How many such cases are with uscis? And what happens to the one you filed for yourself?
During July 07, i know some of the couples did apply twice once a primary and other as dependent on the other. In July 07, wife and i did not take that approach and had separate applications. In August 08, i applied for my second 485 as her dependent since i would have to wait a decade to get gc through my application. For now, my other application shows under review. Once i get GC in my hands, then i will ask my compnay lawyer if there is a need for withdrawing my other application.
How many such cases are with uscis? And what happens to the one you filed for yourself?
During July 07, i know some of the couples did apply twice once a primary and other as dependent on the other. In July 07, wife and i did not take that approach and had separate applications. In August 08, i applied for my second 485 as her dependent since i would have to wait a decade to get gc through my application. For now, my other application shows under review. Once i get GC in my hands, then i will ask my compnay lawyer if there is a need for withdrawing my other application.
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gsc999
07-08 10:51 PM
Thanks to the three members for volunteering.
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srikondoji
07-05 11:08 AM
I sent it for Friday deliver.
http://www.ftd.com/528/catalog/product_search.epl?expresslane=Yes&AID=search&flc=FTD&website_id=528&SLI_searchintegration=1&search_box=F488&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
cost 24.99 to be delivered Friday 7th. Search for F488
Merchandise Subtotal: $ 24 .99
Service Charge Subtotal: $ 13 .99
Discount Subtotal: $ (5 .00)
Your Order Total: $ 33 .98 All prices are in US dollars
Message to Emilio
Thank you for giving us Hope for few hours on July 1st and taking it away. We enjoyed the ride and the pain. Wish you all the best for future Visa Bulletins.
-- let the campaign begin..
http://www.ftd.com/528/catalog/product_search.epl?expresslane=Yes&AID=search&flc=FTD&website_id=528&SLI_searchintegration=1&search_box=F488&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
cost 24.99 to be delivered Friday 7th. Search for F488
Merchandise Subtotal: $ 24 .99
Service Charge Subtotal: $ 13 .99
Discount Subtotal: $ (5 .00)
Your Order Total: $ 33 .98 All prices are in US dollars
Message to Emilio
Thank you for giving us Hope for few hours on July 1st and taking it away. We enjoyed the ride and the pain. Wish you all the best for future Visa Bulletins.
-- let the campaign begin..
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gc_aspirant_prasad
07-09 08:57 AM
Guys, is there a nice write up that a staff reporter could use directly ? I am on the phone with local reporter here & she needs something 100 words or so quickly. Pls help.
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Kushal
04-22 06:20 PM
Hi Admin,
Please close this thread untill we can plan and do some help to Mehul's family. Its really painful and not sure how just sympathy is going to help them.
How many of you ready to donate if we raise fund to help Mehul's family?
please create a thread for donation and let us know...
Please close this thread untill we can plan and do some help to Mehul's family. Its really painful and not sure how just sympathy is going to help them.
How many of you ready to donate if we raise fund to help Mehul's family?
please create a thread for donation and let us know...
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niklshah
08-08 08:50 PM
Last night got a message welcome notice sent.
Today message changed to ( the dates shows yesterday)
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On August 7, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
Congratulations all of u who are receiving card production emails but dont forget IV donate if u can......it will help others in line in which u were also waiting............thanks guys and cheers......
Today message changed to ( the dates shows yesterday)
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On August 7, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
Congratulations all of u who are receiving card production emails but dont forget IV donate if u can......it will help others in line in which u were also waiting............thanks guys and cheers......
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HelloGC07
08-03 05:10 PM
Hello Gc ,
Did you see any change in the update Date on I 140 ?Just want to check when they will update the Date on I 140 when moving from NSC- TSC
No LUD on approved I 140
Did you see any change in the update Date on I 140 ?Just want to check when they will update the Date on I 140 when moving from NSC- TSC
No LUD on approved I 140
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GCKaIntezar
06-07 11:21 AM
reddymjm,
I will have to check with my attorney. But, my I-140 approval came from TSC but my I-485 application was sent to NSC.
If anyone else has had a similar experience, please post your update here.
Thanks.
Per my attorney - If the I140 approval came from TSC, you can send your AOS to TSC directly. Hope this helps.
I will have to check with my attorney. But, my I-140 approval came from TSC but my I-485 application was sent to NSC.
If anyone else has had a similar experience, please post your update here.
Thanks.
Per my attorney - If the I140 approval came from TSC, you can send your AOS to TSC directly. Hope this helps.
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forgerator
09-10 01:48 AM
THIS IS AN EYE OPENER......
Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal
Also to add insult to injury, Mr.Illegal will remit a significant chunk of his money back to his home country thus avoiding his contribution to the US economy. This is what is known as a true leech.
Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal
Also to add insult to injury, Mr.Illegal will remit a significant chunk of his money back to his home country thus avoiding his contribution to the US economy. This is what is known as a true leech.
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mallu
07-03 09:33 PM
I got an email today from USCIS stating this
Current Status: Card production ordered.
I did not receive any other approval notice. I hope this means that our 485 is approved and the cards have been ordered ?
My PD Is May 2003
Congrats!
Usually there will be another message "Notice welcoming permanrent resident sent" . Then, after a few days there will be "Approval notice sent" , the physical approval notice goes to your attorney. You should receive the physical card within 7-10 days.
Current Status: Card production ordered.
I did not receive any other approval notice. I hope this means that our 485 is approved and the cards have been ordered ?
My PD Is May 2003
Congrats!
Usually there will be another message "Notice welcoming permanrent resident sent" . Then, after a few days there will be "Approval notice sent" , the physical approval notice goes to your attorney. You should receive the physical card within 7-10 days.
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waitforgc123
09-05 09:54 PM
Mine was received on July 3rd, R Williams 9:03 AM - Still waiting no receipt no cashing of check.
I will share with you all as soon as I hear of some progress on this front.
thanks
PD - Apr 06
EB2
I will share with you all as soon as I hear of some progress on this front.
thanks
PD - Apr 06
EB2
desi3933
07-08 04:00 PM
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I am not saying that this is a case on employers. If at all it would be a case against the discriminatory laws of the congress which allow someone to stay indefinitely but, do not allow them to work.
From legal point of view, you are incorrect.
What do you mean by "not allow them to work"? Actually AC-21 weaken the case you are mentioning. Since pending/approved I-140 allows extension of H-1 indefinitely, that alone takes your point away.
When I was on H-1, that time one couldn't extend beyond 6 years, no matter what. Now, case is much different. There are so many working for the employer just on the basis of I-140 alone after 6 years of H1.
Unfair does not always mean illegal.
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I am not saying that this is a case on employers. If at all it would be a case against the discriminatory laws of the congress which allow someone to stay indefinitely but, do not allow them to work.
From legal point of view, you are incorrect.
What do you mean by "not allow them to work"? Actually AC-21 weaken the case you are mentioning. Since pending/approved I-140 allows extension of H-1 indefinitely, that alone takes your point away.
When I was on H-1, that time one couldn't extend beyond 6 years, no matter what. Now, case is much different. There are so many working for the employer just on the basis of I-140 alone after 6 years of H1.
Unfair does not always mean illegal.
.
chanduv23
03-12 07:02 AM
Most people have a lack of understanding of the situation. Things may not get better, things may get worse. EB3 is further retrogressing, EB2 will not move further, another market slump expected, more layoffs getting announced (though may not be in high skilled sector, layoffs does matter in decision making), companies running out of funds, body shoppers reducing salaries and increasing their cuts .......
If people start getting depressed, more depression will come, so better understand the situation and plan accordingly and learn to live with problems rather than getting depressed.
If people start getting depressed, more depression will come, so better understand the situation and plan accordingly and learn to live with problems rather than getting depressed.
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